Sigma 30mm Art Vs 30mm F14 Ex Dc Hsm
gedansky • Regular Fellow member • Posts: 274
Sigma 30mm f/one.4 EX DC HSM (the one before the ART version)
Anyone using this? I'k embarrassed to admit I mistook it for the ART version and bought it used on EBay earlier I realized my error. Fortunately I only paid $123.50 plus shipping.
At present that I know what I bought, I've read very mixed reviews, including that it's useless at i.4 and really needs to be stopped downwardly to two.8 t every bit much as f/4. I already have a 24mm 2.8 pancake lens that is my become-to walk around and street photography lens and find information technology sharp at 2.8. I don't demand a 30mm 2.8. It will probably exist as unused as my 40mm 2.eight.
Whatsoever feedback would be helpful.
As well, if practise decide to sell it, is in that location a expert way to do information technology? Ebay takes 10% and I would like to just pause even.
Thanks!
Mahoonse • Regular Member • Posts: 248
Re: Sigma 30mm f/i.four EX DC HSM (the one before the Fine art version)
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gedansky wrote:
Anyone using this? I'm embarrassed to admit I mistook it for the Art version and bought it used on EBay earlier I realized my mistake. Fortunately I only paid $123.fifty plus shipping.
Now that I know what I bought, I've read very mixed reviews, including that it's useless at 1.4 and actually needs to be stopped down to 2.viii t as much as f/four. I already have a 24mm 2.8 pancake lens that is my go-to walk effectually and street photography lens and find it sharp at 2.eight. I don't demand a 30mm 2.8. Information technology volition probably be as unused as my 40mm 2.eight.
Any feedback would exist helpful.
Also, if practise decide to sell it, is there a skillful mode to do it? Ebay takes 10% and I would like to merely suspension even.
Thanks!
I accept both Sigma 30mms (bought both used). I bought the EX earlier the Art was released. This is a somewhat controversial lens with some loving and some hating it. The problem with it is the edges are soft even when stopped downward. Notwithstanding the centre (most of the field of view) is very sharp. I used it by and large for pictures of people in available light. In that situation the edges are out of focus anyway. Ignore the reports that information technology tin't exist used wide open -- it is fine at i.iv. My experiences with this lens were very good. Used where the edges are non important this is an fantabulous lens. I replaced it with the Fine art version so I wouldn't haves edge issues. I love the Art but in virtually uses the ii lenses give the aforementioned results. In sum the EX is a great lens for people merely not a smashing landscape lens.
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OP gedansky • Regular Member • Posts: 274
Re: Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM (the one before the ART version)
Mahoonse wrote:
I have both Sigma 30mms (bought both used). I bought the EX before the Art was released. This is a somewhat controversial lens with some loving and some hating it. The problem with it is the edges are soft fifty-fifty when stopped down. Still the eye (almost of the field of view) is very sharp. I used it mostly for pictures of people in available light. In that situation the edges are out of focus anyhow. Ignore the reports that it can't be used broad open -- it is fine at one.four. My experiences with this lens were very skillful. Used where the edges are not of import this is an excellent lens. I replaced it with the Fine art version so I wouldn't haves edge bug. I love the Art simply in most uses the two lenses give the same results. In sum the EX is a slap-up lens for people but non a great mural lens.
Thanks! I don't shoot a lot of landscapes OR people. I Practise shoot a LOT of walk-around/street/cityscape photography, with a fiddling MACRO photography, and VERY little portraiture. I find my 24mm 2.8 to exist great for this because information technology gives me a sharp, wide, only non distorted view of buildings, or whole areas, and practiced MACRO. I'g non certain I actually need the narrower focal length offered past the 30mm, merely I wanted the 1.4.
Can I merely ingather the edges? About of the time when I shoot a edifice or a metropolis-scape, there is a little wiggle room for cropping.
Is it worth keeping or should I dump it and become to the ART to eliminate the border issues?
Thanks!
Re: Sigma 30mm f/1.iv EX DC HSM (the 1 earlier the ART version)
gedansky wrote:
Anyone using this? I'm embarrassed to acknowledge I mistook information technology for the Art version and bought information technology used on EBay before I realized my fault. Fortunately I only paid $123.50 plus shipping.
At present that I know what I bought, I've read very mixed reviews, including that information technology'due south useless at 1.four and really needs to be stopped down to 2.viii t every bit much every bit f/iv. I already accept a 24mm 2.eight pancake lens that is my go-to walk around and street photography lens and notice information technology sharp at two.8. I don't need a 30mm 2.8. It will probably be as unused equally my 40mm 2.8.
It's not useless at f1.4 ... it'due south smashing at 1.iv... effectually the centre of the frame. It's likewise excellent in the centre stopped down.
In that location is a piffling persistent chromatic abnormality at the sides but it's viable to shoot wide open indoors. It was my hunch it was designed for indoor shooting at shorter distances.
At that low price you lot have to be prepared for it to be a bad re-create though. It was not an expensive lens but not supposed to be quite that inexpensive.
I tried it on FF and I liked the field of view but information technology does give dark corners. You could make it work in 25:9 or something.
At that place are some lenses I don't like using at whatever price because nigh annihilation else is improve or more convenient (old Canon 35mm f2 is in that category for me). Only f1.4 is a fast discontinuity and actually usable on this one.
OP gedansky • Regular Member • Posts: 274
Re: Sigma 30mm f/1.four EX DC HSM (the one earlier the ART version)
Thanks! It'southward used and I announced to exist in the low to middle range of what information technology eBays for used. And so hopefully the price isn't an indicator.
Merely, you do raise some interesting signal…
It seems easy to get some inconsistent products from even the better 3rd parties.
Too, I of my major pet peeve's with fast lenses in general is selling a product as a fast lens but it needs to be stopped down to get a decent motion picture.
So... Since I'k even so not actually good at finessing my lenses… Can you lot give me some test criteria for figuring out whether or not the thing is any good one time information technology comes in?
Cheers!
GammyKnee • Contributing Fellow member • Posts: 969
Re: Sigma 30mm f/1.four EX DC HSM (the i earlier the Fine art version)
Information technology's a long time since I had that lens but I take mostly fond memories of information technology. IMO it was usably sharp at or close to wide open if the bailiwick was fairly central, but as I recall I generally used it at f/1.eight or f/2 to become a bit more than latitude for AF misbehavior. My copy behaved a footling similar the fifty DG HSM ("Sigmalux") in that it required a different AFMA value depending on the subject distance. When it hit I do remember that I liked the results.
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Timotis77 • Contributing Member • Posts: 621
Re: Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM (the one before the Art version)
I brought this over the ART version every bit it was near $300 cheaper. Optically it'due south keen, at f1.4 it's has a very shallow DoF and you lot need to be spot on with your focus to get it correct on the mark, just when you lot practice its brilliant..... Mine focus great and I'm very happy with it overall.
I have the Pentax version and from what reading I did before ownership, its seemed more than reviews said the EX version was more consistent with its focus over the ART - So i got it
Re: Sigma 30mm f/i.4 EX DC HSM (the 1 earlier the Art version)
gedansky wrote:
Thanks! Information technology's used and I announced to be in the depression to middle range of what it eBays for used. So hopefully the toll isn't an indicator.
Just, you do heighten some interesting point…
It seems like shooting fish in a barrel to get some inconsistent products from even the better 3rd parties.
Besides, Ane of my major pet peeve's with fast lenses in general is selling a product as a fast lens but it needs to be stopped downward to become a decent film.
So... Since I'm still not really good at finessing my lenses… Can yous requite me some examination criteria for figuring out whether or not the thing is any practiced one time it comes in?
A unproblematic starting time test is with liveview on a flat field of study with detail about 3m away to brand sure there is no gross decentering and to take a await at the sharpness. Lenses normally always focus correctly in liveview.
Then exam it with the viewfinder normally for the AF. This is where focus corrections may exist required.
Given that this is a seven chemical element design and some zooms have twenty elements, y'all have more than take chances of getting a decent re-create here.
Don't practice your test with the OVF on subjects up shut because a number of fast lenses are known to focus wrongly at minimum focus distance. I forget the technical explanation for this.
You should be able to use the f1.4, at least for people subjects and indoors. It's not especially a mural lens for counting every bract of grass in the corners in my opinion, but it tin get very sharp in the centre. Believe me, lenses get much worse than this.
The sample image above this post is a adept utilise of the lens, a centralised subject and the lens isolates it from the background.
OP gedansky • Regular Member • Posts: 274
Re: Sigma 30mm f/1.iv EX DC HSM (the i before the Art version)
Thanks!
I assumed that something similar a mural should be stopped downwardly to at least f8 to go large movie sharpness throughout a larger image.
Mahoonse • Regular Member • Posts: 248
Re: Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM (the one before the ART version)
gedansky wrote
Can I just crop the edges? Most of the time when I shoot a building or a city-scape, there is a niggling wiggle room for cropping.
Is information technology worth keeping or should I dump it and get to the ART to eliminate the border problems?
Thanks!
I would continue and use the EX and see how it works for you knowing its quirks. See if the edges prove an issue for you or not, then decide if getting the Art is worth the the cost. Working within its limitations it is a great lens.
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Re: Sigma 30mm f/one.4 EX DC HSM (the one earlier the Fine art version)
Mahoonse wrote:
gedansky wrote
Tin I but crop the edges? Most of the time when I shoot a building or a urban center-scape, at that place is a little wiggle room for cropping.
Is it worth keeping or should I dump it and go to the Fine art to eliminate the border issues?
Thanks!
I would keep and utilise the EX and encounter how it works for you lot knowing its quirks. Encounter if the edges prove an issue for you or not, and then decide if getting the Art is worth the the cost. Working within its limitations it is a cracking lens.
Good advice! Some famous lenses are very soft around the borders, designed at a time before computers played a big role in lens manufacturing.
I have the Fine art version, and the wife has the C version (for m43), and they are both smashing lenses, the latter being a bit improve, but the optics blueprint is fairly different.
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Sigma 30mm f/ane.iv EX DC HSM (and the Art version)
gedansky wrote:
Thanks! It'southward used and I appear to exist in the depression to middle range of what information technology eBays for used. So hopefully the cost isn't an indicator.
But, you practise enhance some interesting point…
It seems easy to get some inconsistent products from fifty-fifty the better third parties.
Also, One of my major pet peeve's with fast lenses in general is selling a production as a fast lens merely it needs to be stopped down to get a decent picture.
So... Since I'm withal not really good at finessing my lenses… Tin can y'all requite me some examination criteria for figuring out whether or not the matter is any good in one case it comes in?
Thanks!
A piece of general communication for picking a piffling older lens is to go to Imaging Resource's mistiness graphs, which is a very graphic way to evidence how a lens behaves, at all discontinuity settings.
Here is 30/1.4 EX DC HSM: https://www.imaging-resources.com/lenses/sigma/30mm-f1.iv-ex-dc-hsm/blur/sub-frame/
Very soft effectually the edges at any aperture, just pleasingly abrupt in the center.
What almost the Art version?!
I got the now fairly old Art version (they were introduced in Jan 2013), which is the reverse: Never totally brilliant, but good straight across the frame, at just about any aperture setting. No flare to speak of, simply a dependable lens.
Best around f/2.eight-4.
https://www.imaging-resource.com/lenses/sigma/30mm-f1.four-dc-hsm-a/blur/catechism-7d/
Very few issues of any kind, and delightful when used with a Nikon one camera, the but MILC camera with a 1" sensor there is!
Information technology is then an first-class portrait lens, with no issues at all!
Hither are a few samples I simply took:
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Jvlahakis • Senior Member • Posts: i,019
Re: Sigma 30mm f/one.four EX DC HSM (the i before the Art version)
That's a astounding toll.
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OP gedansky • Regular Member • Posts: 274
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